Guest: Derrick Kinney

Referrals & Positioning in a Crowded 401(k) Market

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Derrick Kinney built a wildly successful advisory practice by connecting emotionally with clients instead of pushing logic and features.

In this episode of Beyond The Advice, Derrick and Andy discuss:  

• A mid-meeting referral script that actually works
• How to disarm cold leads with one simple phrase
• Why 4% work beats frantic activity
• The power of handwritten notes and personal connection
• How to position yourself as memorable, not interchangeable


Whether you’re chasing high-value plans or reactivating COIs, this is an advisor conversation you don’t want to miss.

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If you've ever wondered which days are best for cold calls to 401(k) prospects but not had the data to decide, Zoom.info's analysis of 1.4M cold calls will be helpful.

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Use this framework to unlock sales deliverables and talking points to win more business and drive max value to clients/prospects.

Only Three Sources of 401(k) Leads

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There are three sources of 401(k) leads: Network, COIs, list of plan prospects. If you need more leads, which of the three do you feel offers the most immediate upside? Let's jump in.

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